Part for five-speed saxonette 519 1994

[ndrscons]

Any chance someone knows what the specific part if there is one, which must be ordered to add a standard five-speed rear end?

I see on the saxonette/spartomette website, a collection of parts which are mostly not-custom, and as there is a DIY (do it yourself) bicycle place nearby where I can get the parts other than the 170€ new for the five-speed kit, if I know what exactly I need [what the essential part] to order to do the conversion it could be possible then to do it locally.

Thanks.

[Dieter-K]

NDRcons möchte wissen, wie er möglichst preiswert eine 5-Gangschaltung mit allgemein verfügbaren Teilen anbauen kann.
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Hallo NDRcons,

it is difficult to explain that even in German. If your interest in the Saxonette is in a year still as large as it is today, I'll help you to get your 5-speed rear end.

Cheers - Dieter
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Das ist selbst auf Deutsch nicht leicht zu erklären.
Wenn sein Interesse an der Saxonette in einem Jahr noch so groß ist wie heute, werde ich ihm helfen, den Umbau hinzukriegen.

[ndrscons]

Ok. Here is all ears. Kann Deutsche lesen besser dann schreiben. Und eine fraulein ist heir und kann ubersetzt auch.

Its not clear about your last question: The build year was 1994, if it is a literal question. Here are links to the other photos for reference, and a few more are being posted today (in a minute).

see links below.

If it is a question as to the degree of development interest of the bike, then for example, where the focus diverges from mainstream concepts of bicycles: There is no concern about the saxonette being 'heavy', in comparison to pre-existing often-held concepts of bicycles.

The previously-used bicycle, a heavy Kettler, was the main mode of transit and still is when needed. It sometimes pulled a newspaper trailer, weighing 40+kg empty. The weight and general slowness with occasional sprinting is very *good* exercise, for a man, to peddle slow with more weight, then to do cardio (e.g. with a light, fast bike) which makes oestrogen levels in men increase.

http://www.motorfahrrad.eu/viewtopic.ph ... 59&p=45976
http://www.motorfahrrad.eu/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4773

When you need a photo of the specific area with the sprocket and chain, just ask. Or I walk down now to the bike and upload one.

thanks

[lemsteraak]

Maybe I can help.

I retrofitted to 15 speeds (three chain wheels on front, five on back) on my cargo bike. It is bicycle technology and a bicycle mechanic can help you.

This is what I know, (I am still a beginner like you) There are two rear axle lengths, you need an engine with the longer axle to do the conversion. Even with the longer axle it is still tight and you can only use a five speed freewheel.

Parts you need, you can find these better used from old bikes
5 speed freewheel
old style derailer, one that has its own bracket to the frame
cable and thumb actuated gear changer
freewheel removers

OK, this sounds so simple, is is not. Your saxonette is a one speed so it has a big thick rugged chain, roughly 1/8 of an inch wide. This is too wide to fit on your new rear five speed cluster, you need a 3/16 inch chain, which is too narrow to fit on your front chain wheel. This is why your friends on the forum are not recommending the conversion, you need to change the front chain wheel to a thinner one.

If you wish to proceed, it is easy but not for the faint of heart, I would be happy to share how I made the conversion

Rich
Portland Oregon

[Dieter-K]

It is easier, if someone has got very calm hands, to remember this tip from "Nicht mehr Miglied".
No problem to talk about this former secret, because he himself has described the method in the other forum.

Note, this gear was grind down from both sides until the chain fell into the teeth as it should be.
On the left you see the tool I used.

This solution works fine since 2007. Here my seven speed. From 24 down to 11 teeth.

Thank you for your language assistance, lemsteraak!

Cheers - Dieter

[Claus]

Hi Stewart ,

I couldn´t answer in your first thread because I´ve been in holidays,but now I hope
that I also can help you a litte bit:
in this online-shop you´ll find all spare parts which are needed to finish your project:
http://www.brucker-radl-service.com/5-G ... ruestsatz/
(don´t forget to click the links)

I admire your enthusiasm in this case,but I know
"A man has to do what a man h a s to do".isn´t it?

Furthermore I agree Rich,that here only is bicycle-technology required and in my
opinion you´ll get all parts also in your local bike-shop just around the corner.
(freight costs)

Good Luck and cheerio
Claus

[ndrscons]

hallo,

i was to quote only one previous post, however the next ones were also so helpful it would not be sensible to quote the entire thread.

So... the local mechanics at the regenbogenfabrik can help with the conversion. I will get the tip retranslated back into german or maybe someone here can post a link to a guide sporti probably already made (!) in german, and I can bring it with me (to the werkstatt).

e.g. the teeth can be ground, no problem!

[Dieter-K]

To grind, grind, ground? Schleifen, schliff, geschliffen? However, this verb is unknown in German schools.

- Dieter

[Claus]

...dentist´s word usage ?

Claus

[Dieter-K]

...dentist´s word usage ?

Claus

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